Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS Howard Hughes plane lands and a large crowd has gathered at the airport to give a warm welcome to Howard. Howard's plane the Intrepid "Round The World" pilot is widely acclaimed and gets a big Chicago welcome starting with a ticker tape parade. The big parade goes down the streets of Chicago right up to Chicago's City Hall.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS The millionaire sportsman aviator, Howard Hughes, is royally welcomed by his 'home town'. They closed down Hughes Tool Company in order to welcome their founder's return to Huston for the day. Hughes Tool Company building. CU of one of the department heads shutting the gates of the company with a sign attached to the gate reading, "Closed Today". CU of the plane landing and Howard Hughes amongst crowd.
(00:55:45) Mr. NUSSBAUM. That's exactly what I try to do. I try to give the best advice and judgments, legal judgment and other judgments, that I can give under the circumstances at the time. I try to do my best. Senator MOSELEY-BRAUN. Now that you've had a chance to see and hear the other views, the other perceptions, would you change that view now? Mr. NUSSBAUM. You're not going to like this answer, perhaps. Senator MOSELEY-BRAuN. That's OK Mr. NUSSBAUM. But I've thought about it a lot. I've had occasion, having left the Government, taking a mini-sabbatical, to think about this. I respect the other views. I respect your view, Senator Boxer's view, Senator Kerry's view, the Chairman's view, Lloyd Cutler's view, Lloyd Bentsen's view. I don't agree. I don't agree. I really still maintain my view that if you're not legally or ethically required to recuse yourself, and that includes appearances, then you do your job. You do your duty. Now, that's my position. As a result of that position, I am now back in New York rather than in Washington, but that's my position. Senator MOSELEY-BRAuN. I have no further questions. Thank you, Mr. Nussbaum. Senator DODD. Mr. Chairman? 510 The CHAIRMAN. Senator Murray. Senator MURRAY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have listen carefully to my colleagues talk about this issue of recusal because I think it raises a lot of And I can't help but agree with my colleague, Senator Kerry. my Sometimes, you've got to look past legal and ethical issues and see public perception and public opinion because we live with that' every day, But I find myself sitting here thinking what does that do to us in the future if we factor public perception into every deci- sion? I think one of the reasons we find ourselves sitting here for 5 or 6 solid days, going through questions, is because we had a man who essentially held two jobs, one in Treasury and one in the RTC. He was there because the White House sent a name over to the Senate, and this Committee didn't deal with him. We never got anybody in place. Trying to find somebody to do that job has been extremely difficult. If we had confirmed a name, any name, Stanley Tate or anybody sent over by the President to head up the RTC and, I think we would ask whoever that person is: Are you too close to Bill Clinton' to deal with the Madison Guaranty issue? And I have to ask, is there any Presidential nominee we could put in place who would not have to recuse himself on this as head of the RTC? Mr. NUSSBAUM. This raises a profound difference I have with so many of you in this room. Just because the President appoints somebody to a position and that person is confirmed by the Senate doesn't mean he can't act with a matter affecting the President or the President's family. In the Silverado case, a George Bush appointee confirmed by the Senate acted with respect to Neil Bush. Congressman Leach, in his letter to Roger Altman on February 3rd when he told him to seriously consider recusing himself, mentioned that fact, recognized that Presidential appointees are not, ipso facto, by virtue of that position, prevented from acting with respect to matters affecting the President or the President's family. Roger Altman was not, because he was a Presidential appointee, was not disqualified from acting in this matter. The fact that he was a friend of the President didn't disqualify him from acting in this matter. We have ethics rules that deal with these issues here and I'm not arguing with anybody in particular now, we're sort of overriding them because of some greater public relations consideration, political considerations, public perception considerations, whatever these names people are using. I understand how important those things are politically, and I understand how those things have political effects on people's lives but nonetheless, I don't believe they should override the fundamental principle if a person is not legally or ethically required to recuse himself. And because you're a Presidential appointee doesn't legally or ethically require you to recuse yourself Senator MURRAY. I want to ask my friend, Senator Kerry, because, as he pointed out, if we set a legal standard and an ethics standard and also a public opinion standard Senator KERRY. Perception.
Childhood Friends LS two grade school age boys in silhouette walking away from camera toward beach, it's the twilight hour with a golden sunset on the horizon, very warm and representing childhood nostalgia.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS 30,000 Amused spectators witness the annual charity game, in which many leading Hollywood stars and comedians run riot on the diamond, hitting an occasional ball and otherwise carrying on in true 'gag' fashion. Joe E. Brown at microphone describing the game. Older woman throwing out first pitch.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS All the dashing bravado and color of the old west is recalled with a fast-riding and thrilling rodeo, featuring daring bronco riders, and a street parade in which colorful floats depict the days of Buffalo Bill.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery Douglas Corrigan, intrepid aviator who flew 'by mistake' non-stop to Ireland in a $900, 9-year-old plane, tells his story to Universal Newsreel far out at sea, before his spectacular reception in New York. Douglas Corrigan waves from passenger liner and passes a sight-seeing boat with banners welcoming him back home to New York. Ticker tape parade in New York. Corrigan waves to crowd on parade route. (various generic shots could be used for other ticker-tape parades)
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS George Boarman, Octogenarian night watchman, who credits his--err--well, his longevity to righteous living, is the proud papa of a bouncing boy of 8 pounds by this third wife, who's 21. It's Boarman's 26th child. Boarman at work on the boat docks. He jumps about doing a silly dance, apparently to show how youthful he is. Cameramen wearing medical gowns and masks, standing behind newsreel cameras. CU of George Boarman and his 21 year old wife and new born child.
(01:00:40) Senator MURRAY. Public perception standard, could we find anybody to be in that position? 511 Senator KERRY. If I could supplement the question to Mr. Nussbaum and, look, I don't quarrel with you on any other level, but don't you think Mr. Altman fell into-he's not just a political appointee in the sense-I'm on her time Senator D'AMATO. I don't agree. I'll read the whole thing. Senator DODD. It's important. Senator MURRAY. I don't believe they're arguing with that, Senator Kerry. Senator KERRY. They're talking about something else. Just on the question of Mr. Altman, he ran the war room, he had this extraordinary access to the White House, he was a major player in Health Care. So here you have somebody who's a central part of the President's political agenda in a way many people wouldn't Separate from the rise or fall of the President himself, particularly the campaign, also. I think you have a very different status than just an appointee who goes off to do his job. Mr. NUSSBAUM. Senator Kerry, you're making it a very strong argument in this respect, and it really is a close case, maybe a closer case than sometimes I make it sound when I get carried away with my position. But you have to understand what he said to me at that meeting, and it sort of subsumed some of the things you said. He comes into me and he says I am not legally or ethically required to recuse myself. I know that legal or ethical recusal standards take into account relationships and appearances, so he's, in effect, saying to me I've gone to somebody. I've discussed these issues. I've laid out all the facts, including, I presume, those kinds of things, and I've gotten this advice. Then that triggers my response. Maybe you're speaking with justification or you're saying with justification that I should have examined it more, come to an independent conclusion about this, and maybe you've reached a different conclusion. Senator MURRAY. Mr. Nussbaum, it's my time that I'm losing here. I think that this is a discussion that this Committee is going to have to have. Fortunately, the RTC is going to go out of exist- ence, I hope in my lifetime, but I do think it's a question that all of us have to as ask ourselves. If we have Presidential appointees, is there an ethic bar so high that no one can jump over it and every- one would have to recuse? Before I lose my time, Mr. Nussbaum, I have to ask you something else and it goes away from this entirely. Having sat here and listened to all kinds of theories about who did what and how awful they were, it seems to me that some people came into this willing to hang somebody before we started and some people are still there. I'm not sure where I am yet, but I have to go back to our very first day of hearings when we discussed Vince Foster's suicide. I know you were not here, but I know that you knew him. And I have to ask you, having left this town, having watched all of this. Vince Foster said something and I would just like to give you an opportunity to comment on it. "Here, ruining people is considered sport." I really would like to hear what you have to say about his observation. Mr. NUSSBAUM. That's a very hard question to ask me, because I really had great affection and great respect for Vince Foster. He was a marvelous person and a great Deputy. I think the course of 512 my life was changed by his suicide. I think, to some extent) he was right. I think in Washington, among some people, ruining people is considered sport. But I don't really believe that exists on every level. I really don't agree with Vince in the final analysis. I think there's a lot of it. There's too much of it, but fundamentally-I said this before the House, to some extent, too--fundamentally, I believe the public service is a high calling. I believe it's a worthy calling. I believe it has certain dangers that go along with it. I believe you should ex- pect those. You should try to deal with those as best you can, it shouldn't discourage people. I don't want Vince's death, I don't want my experience to discourage people from coming to Washington. I really want people to come and to serve.
THIRSTY MAN DRINKING FROM FRESH WATER STREAM MS older man with Shepherd's staff bending over with cupped hand and drinking from fresh water stream.
GROUP PORTRAIT OF ANDES NATIVES MS South American Indians of the Andes mountains posing for photographer, all smiling as the man focuses the lens on his big tripod camera
Master 2138, Tape 1 MS Young Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) sitting on a tree branch. The squirrel scratches himself with his hind leg. The squirrel grooms. The squirrel climbs the tree branches.
Master 2138, Tape 1 MS tree with den hole. One young Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) pops his head out of the den hole. Another squirrel is on the back of the tree; he climbs around to the den hole. Both squirrels retreat into the den. A third squirrel climbs down the tree trunk and into the den. The squirrels have been scared by a crow's call.
Master 2138, Tape 1 MS Young Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) sticks his head out of his den hole in a tree. The squirrel comes out of his den and climbs on the tree. The squirrel sits in a tree and eats.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS 125 Streamlined lassies compete in Steeplechase Park's 25th annual Modern Venus Contest (Bathing Beauty contest). The judges pick diminutive Elissa Winston, pretty 19 yr. old brunette, as the No. 1 'Eyeful'. Judges "measure" her up, a judge measures her bust and waist.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS An amazing, turtle-shaped racer, developed by John Cobb, British broker and sportsman, is made ready for an assault on the world's auto speed record held by Captain Eyston. Cobb's car has 2630 H.P.!
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS 'Iron Man' Talun, Polish wrestler, who speaks no English but knows all the familiar tricks and a few new ones, is seen in a rip-snorting match in and out of the ring. He finally downs Danno O'Mahoney, his much battered opponent.
(01:05:27) Senator MURRAY. And I appreciate that, but I wonder if we set the ethical bar so high, that no one can do any of these jobs? Mr. NUSSBAUM. I think that's a real problem. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Murray. Are there any further questions for the witness because, if not, I'm going to excuse the witness. We've got the results of the deposition here with Ms. Hanson. There's been a request that it be read into the record, and I'm going to do that, in its entirety, in one moment. What I'd like to do, because of the hour of the evening that it is, or the morning, 1:05, 1 would hope we would not get into a de' bate on the substance of this' tonight. I think nobody has had a chance to read it and digest it. It will be out there in the pub public arena. We can all have it and take it up tomorrow if there's a need to do so. Senator BRYAN. Mr. Chairman, may Mr. Nussbaum be excused? Senator SARBANES. I want to say something, Mr. Nussbaum Senator DODD. And I do too, just 2 seconds, but go ahead. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Sarbanes. Senator SARBANES. I want to thank Mr. Nussbaum. I think he's raised some very serious questions, very thought provoking, on the recusal issue, and while there's been sharp reaction from many Members here on the Committee, I think if they think about it , the implications of some of what's happening are very serious indeed. You're getting to the point, to take an extreme, a President comes in, He nominates people to office and they have to recuse themselves simply because they're nominated. Or, you know, someone says, well, I met him and we're sort of friends and now there's a tough decision here and I'm recusing myself. Now, the Altman case may be different, I think, but I think in a sense, it represents the politics of our time. Unfortunately, what's happened is there's a cynicism that's assuming if you have any connection at all, you can't make a tough independent judgment, and I think if we start down that path, it's fraught with very serious implications. I think that you've argued that case very strongly tonight and, I'm frank to say, I think it needs to be given a great deal of thought and attention. I also want to say when the panel was here from the Associate Counsels of the White House Office, they drew virtually uniform praise from Members of the Committee for their forthrightness, for their obvious ability, for their commitment, and for their understanding. 513 And I think it ought to be noted that those were people you brought into Government. They, in effect, were your people. You're the one who picked them, brought them in, and to the extent that we praised them yesterday, I think it's a reflection upon you this evening. Senator DODD. Can I just Mr. NUSSBAUM. Thank you, Senator. Senator DODD. I want to pick up and be very brief. I want to associate myself completely with the remarks of my colleague from Maryland. He's terribly perceptive most of the time, if not all of the time, only when he disagrees with me, which is far too frequently I'm afraid, but I also wanted to express my view-maybe we're becoming addicted to this process here late at night, but I think it's an extremely important debate and we have to find a forum in which to conduct it because I think there's a terrible danger in applying a standard that has such rigidity that we defeat the purpose for which the rule was established. There's also the danger of tyranny. We're raising the bar of recusal to such a level that it has the outcome determined before any consideration is given. The notion that public perception should weigh as heavily as the ethical or legal questions is a frightening thought to me. It may be a bit old-fashioned, but I was taught to believe that in public service, the standard which you use to judge your conduct is you do what's right, even if it's unpopular, even if a good part of your constituency or the public or the press doesn't like it.
Master 194 - Tape 1 CU young woman (teen), interesting diagonal split-screen effect (makes her look like TWO women) with mirror as she sprays some sort of aerosol onto mirror, as if to show how some hair sprays can smear and dull a woman's hair. MSs of young woman in front of mirror as she sprays her hair with VO-5 and smiles at the results, except when she apparently gets a little in her eyes. MSs woman pitching Vo-5, holding it up and showing side by side comparison with Brand X aerosol.
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Master 194 - Tape 2 Animated white on black line drawing of a football player, narrator asks him his secret, he takes off his helmet saying, "Nobody can tell me I don't use my head." Inside is a Twin Pack of Chesty Potato Chips. Football hits him on the head, and he stumbles over the word "Crisperfection." in describing his love for Chesty Chips. Similar animated line drawing of mad scientist/genius type, Professor Von Schnuckelpuss, who wants to discover the secret of the "Crisperfection" process, as he puts a match to the concoction in his petrie dish, it explodes. Similar animated line drawing of big game hunter and lion, Sir Cedric Claversham, "the internationally famous hunter". "They're fresh enough to tame a lion," he says, the lion meows like a domestic tabby.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS In one of the most amazing 'Bets' ever cancelled on the fairway, j. Smith Frebee, Golfer-Broker, wins $2,500 and a half interest in a virginia plantation by playing between dawn and dusk with no '18' and 95 strokes.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS It's down to the sea on water toboggans for a bevy of 'down east' misses, who stage thrilling 10 M.P.H. Dashes at Morgans Beach, riding bike mermaids into cold stream pond from a 60-foot incline.
Shaky dull in contrast and imagery - DOS Spectacular scenes mark the huge demonstration as thousands of members of the C.T.M. Workers organization stage a colorful parade and mass meeting against newspapers unfavorable to their cause.