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Rich California Stakes To Native Diver
The $162,100 Hollywood Gold Cup is won by Californian-bred Native Diver who leads from wire to wire to score a six-length victory over six thoroughbreds. Guided by Jerry Lambert, a G.I. on leave to drive him, Native Diver upped his earnings to well over $500,000. California LS/TLSs crowd gathered at Hollywood Park racetrack. Panning TLS start of horse race, thoroughbred horses racing from gates. Panning high angle LSs horse race. Slightly slow motion panning TLS horse racing by cam.
Jump For Charity: U.S. & Thai Chutists Raise School Funds
The people of Thailand are flocking to a series of air shows being staged to raise money for schools. Teams of United States & Thai chutists are jumping at the chance to take part in the undertaking that has already raised funds to build 33 schools in rural areas. LS crowd gathered on airstrip. MS American flag hanging limp from flagpole. MS crowd of Thai men, women & children looking into sky. Great high angle air to air shots of parachutists leaping from plane, falling to ground. MS group of Thai men looking to sky. TLS parachutist landing on ground. CU young Thai woman. MS Thai female parachutist on ground after landing. Low angle LS parachutists leaping from plane, parachutes opening (apparently, this is two soccer teams making a grand entrance). LS/TLS - parachutists descending, landing. MS - uniformed Asian soccer players taking off parachutes, running off airfield.
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(18:50:55) Senator SASSER. So all of the participants in that meeting, Bernie Nussbaum, yourself, Maggie Williams, who else was in there? Was Ms. Hanson in the meeting? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SASSER. Ms. Hanson. Who else other than Mr. ALTMAN, Mr. Nussbaum's Deputy, Mr. Eggleston. Senator SASSER. And Harold Ickes. Harold Ickes is the only one of the whole group that suggests that you indicated it would be unlikely that the investigation could be completed and the civil suit brought before the expiration of the statute of limitations? Mr. ALTMAN. That is categorically false. Senator SASSER. No, no, I said he's the only who said that. Mr. ALTMAN. I'm sorry. Apparently, I've not seen a copy of his deposition. Senator SASSER Right Did Ms. Kulka indicate to you that she would not be able to file a case by February 28, 1994, to your knowledge? Mr. ALTMAN. No, sir. I believe Ms. Kulka, herself, testified the same way before this Committee. Senator SASSER. Affirmatively that she could file the case by February 28? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SASSER. So if that's the case of the whole discussion about whether or not the statute of limitations was discussed, there really is not a -matter of great relevance, is it? It would appear to me that's the case. Mr. ALTMAN. We did not provide any nonpublic information. Senator SASSER. My time has expired. Thank you, Mr. Altman. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Sasser. Senator Faircloth. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Altman, you said in your deposition that you had no knowledge of the Madison Guaranty case. You said, and I quote, "I knew nothing about the case whatsoever, nothing about the facts, the merits, the outlook, or anything else about the case." You also said, and again I quote, "I was never given any information about the facts of the case, or the outlook for the case, or the status of the case." Now, that came from page 275 and 399 of your deposition. Is that what you said? Mr. ALTMAN, Yes, Senator, I believe I was specifically referring to the civil side. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Altman, yesterday Mr. Roelle of the RTC testified here under oath that he told you. in January 1993 about a criminal referral in the Madison Guaranty case that named the Clintons. In your deposition, you said you knew nothing about 445 the case whatsoever. Isn't information about the criminal referral something? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I believe my have to check the transcript- related to the civil case which was the only case remaining at the RTC in 1994 or the months preceding our February 2 meeting. Senator FAIRCLOTH. You mean that you knew about the criminal, but that doesn't amount to having any knowledge, just the civil. Mr. ALTMAN. My position is I knew almost nothing about the criminal as well, but I believe the answer you're quoting from had to do with what I knew about the case on February 2, which had to be the civil case. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Roelle said be told you about the criminal referral. All right. Yesterday, Ellen Kulka testified under oath that she had briefed you on the statute of limitations for civil action in the Madison Guaranty case. Now, she testified here yesterday that she bad briefed you on the civil action. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, she briefed me on the generic procedures which the RTC follows on any statute of limitations situation and would follow on Madison. There's no knowledge there about the case. Senator FAIRCLOTH. In your deposition, you testified you were never given any information on the status of the case. Isn't being briefed on when the statute of limitations will run out on a particular case information on the status of the case? Mr. ALTMAN. No, sir, it's not. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Ellen Kulka testified here under oath that you were told that there would be difficulty in developing the Madison Guaranty civil case before the statute of limitations ran out. You said in our deposition that you knew nothing whatsoever about the outlook for the case. Isn't knowing that there would be difficulty in meeting the statute of limitations knowing something about the case?
Vietnam Report: War Fury Mounts, US Sends More Men
One of the bloodiest battles of the Vietnam War takes place in Dong Xiao as Red Vietcong rebels try to over-run South Vietnamese troops guarding an airstrip. In the night action south Vietnamese forces counted 250 dead, 19 Americans among them. At least 700 Reds were killed as Rangers drove them back into the jungle. Meanwhile, air strikes from carrier-based planes were joined by B-52 bombers which crossed the Pacific from Guam to hit a Vietcong concentrations. Dong Xiao, Vietnam Inside a Army helicopter looking over a pilots shoulder down at Dong Xiao, Vietnam. MS Army helicopter hovering over the landing strip. Aftermath of a battle and shelling, bombing. Confiscated weapons from the Red Vietcong. MS Bewildered Vietnamese after seeing many people slaughtered during the attack. Survivors leaving the ruins of their town. Piled up shell casings among the town's destruction. American military men talking with South Vietnam's military. MS Camera panning showing the destruction of the town. Aerial Shot - Naval aircraft carrier, helicopter lowering showing in detail the planes parked on the deck. Fighter plane taking off.
Welcome Home: Thailand Hails Its Miss Universe
The pert Miss Thailand who was recently crowned Miss Universe in Florida returns to her home in triumph. Huge crowds greet the beauty winner as she returns to her native land in time to help celebrate the Queen's birthday. TLS Thai reporters milling about tarmac, waiting for arrival. TLSs Miss Universe APASRA HONGSUKULA walking through crowd, surrounded by Thai military officers. MS Apasra Hongsukula wearing tiara & Miss Universe sash, sitting on convertible, flanked by Thai soldiers. TLS/MSs Apasra riding in open convertible through streets, waving to crowds; motorcade with police escort. Rear view TLS crowd congesting street, some men leaping for better look. Panning TLS crushing throng in street.
Lynx
(Tape 1) Adult lynx in deep snow, partially hidden by trees - snow is falling 07:53:38 CU Lynx's black tail tip, walk about, sniffing and pawing snow, then bounces away, walking around again 07:55:50 Lynx in deep snow 07:56:04 Adult and young lynx in deep snow, separate looking around in snow, young lynx semi-jumps and playful paws lynx, run about 07:56:54 MS of young lynx, he looks around and is joined by older lynx, walking 07:57:44 Young lynx pats down snow with front paw, looks around, hunches down and lunches into a run down snow bank after older lynx (action is cut off) 07:58:02 Two lynx walking around, young lynx walking in deep snow, running, shot from back of younger one running into trees, walking 07:59:23 Older lynx is joined by younger one, smelling snow and walking around, 07:59:45 Young lynx shakes feet 08:00:00 Young lynx shakes feet, falls in water, crawls out, doing a wobbly brisk walk 08:00:26 Wet lynx walking in deep snow, keep shaking his feet
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(18:55:32) Mr. ALTMAN. No, sir, that doesn't give me any information about the outlook for the case. Senator FAIRCLOTH. You testified in your deposition that you had no knowledge of the substance of the Madison Guaranty case, However, Harold Ickes testified that you told him about the inquiry, that the investigation was going to take longer to conclude, and that it might not conclude until after the statute of limitations expired. Ickes testified, and I quote: '?be general information from Mr. Altman was based on what he knew." How could you advise Harold Ickes if you knew nothing? Mr. ALTMAN. I did not so advise him. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Was be lying? Mi. ALTMAN. I did not so advise him, Senator. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Are you saying that Harold Ickes was lying in his testimony? Mr. ALTMAN. I did not so advise him. Senator FAIRCLOTH. You said in your deposition that you were never involved with any case. Mr. ALTMAN. I said I was never involved in decisions on any case. 446 Senator FAIRCLOTH. Jean Hanson testified that you instructed her to try to get Ellen Kulka, the RTC lawyer, to brief President Clinton's private lawyer, Dave Kendall, on the Madison case. If you had never got involved, why would you be asking anybody to brief an ybody about anything on the case? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, at the conclusion of the substantive part of the February 2 meeting, I was asked whether the same procedural information on the generic alternatives facing the RTC would be provided to the private attorneys. I'm not a lawyer. I think I said I guess so. We returned to the Treasury. Jean Hanson checked with Ms. Kulka. Ms. Kulka said something to the affected of not now or in due course. I said fine. That's what happened. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Again, you testified you were never involved in any case whatsoever. On Madison, specifically, you testified you knew nothing of the case whatsoever. In other words, nobody told ou anything about the case. Jean Hanson testified here that you ad an understanding about this type of information. She said it is standard practice to notify you if there will be issues involving Congressmen, Senators, people of national prominence, or an issue of national attention. How can you be notified if no one tells you anything? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, my policy in that regard related to press. I simply requested that before the RTC released any action which could have major press potential or leak potential, that I be advised after the decision was reached, not before, not to have any role in the decision. I wanted to know simply so that I'd be prepared for whatever inquiries could ensue. And I think if one checked, although I haven't, if one checked with like agencies, one would find they had similar policies on press. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Altman, you did not recuse yourself until after Robert Fiske was brought in on the case by Janet Reno. At the March 2 White House meeting, Bernard Nussbaum wanted to know if there was any way to take the RTC civil case away from Ellen Kulka, who he thought was too tough, and give them to Robert Fiske. Jean Hanson testified that she didn't get an ethics opinion about telling Robert Nussbaum about the criminal referral because it assisted in achieving a governmental purpose. How does meeting with Nussbaum, who then tried to get the civil case out of the hands of a lawyer that he thought was too tough and into the hands of Robert Fiske serve a governmental purpose? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I don't believe there was any discussion on February 2 about moving the case to Mr. Fiske. I don't believe there was any such discussion. Senator FAIRCLOTH. Mr. Altman, did you ever walk on water? Mr. ALTMAN. No, sir. Senator FAIRCLOTH. I yield my time to Senator D'Amato. Senator D'AMATO. Mr. Chairman., are you ready? Senator BENNETT. I'm ready, but I want my full 10 minutes. Senator D'AMATO. I'll start with Mr. Bennett and give him the time. Senator SHELBY. If the Senator would yield to me, I'd take it. Senator DAMATO. I'll yield to the Senator. Senator BENNETT. I think that's the proper order'. 447 Senator DAMATO. Go ahead. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Shelby, there is little time left but they're yielding, so you go ahead. Senator SHELBY. I'll try to save it for them. I just want my time, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Altman, you've been prepared on various occasions during your career to testify before various Committees in the House an perhaps the Senate, have you not? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir, many times. Senator SHELBY. And some of it started back when you were in the Carter Administration; is that Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. Would you characterize an appearance before the Senate Banking Committee acting in its oversight capacity on RTC, etcetera, as a serious undertaking?
Nassau (Bahamas)
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(19:00:58) Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir, I would. Senator SHELBY. Did you not prepare for this oversight hearing Senator SHELBY. How much time did you spend in your best judgment, if you recall anything, on preparation for that February hearing? Mr. ALTMAN. Ten or 12 hours. Senator SHELBY. Now, did you think you were fairly well prepared when you came before the Banking Committee? Mr. ALTMAN. One is never as prepared as one would like to be but reasonably so. Senator SHELBY. Mr. Altman, you're a graduate of Georgetown University undergraduate and MBA from the University of Chicago is that right? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. Two good schools. You're an investment banker by profession, or were? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SHE SHELBY. You were a partner with one or two of the large investment houses that deal with investment banking in the United States Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. in February? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir, I did. Senator SHELBY. Who worked with you? I know a number of your staff, but besides Ms. Hanson. Mr. ALTMAN. Who attended? Senator SHELBY. Yes, who helped prepare you? We have staff who help prepare us sometimes and I understand that. Mr. ALTMAN. There were about 10 or 15 members in RTC Treasury staff who worked with me on the preparation of the testimony on the Q's and A's before February 24. Senator SHELBY. Do you, in this preparation, go over with different staffers questions that might be-that you might anticipate that some of us here on the Banking Committee might ask you Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. -Pertaining to RTC or something related directly or indirectly to it? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. 448 Senator SHELBY. -and in the world. Do you believe that when someone asks you a straight question, that you should give them a straight answer? Or should you try to dodge it or duck it? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, throughout the career that I've been privileged to have, both public and private, I have always tried to an. swer forthrightly. I think if you went out and checked with people who know me, they might say various things about me and my failings but they would not say that I was not a forthright person. Senator SHELBY. We've been checking and this is part of the hearing today. A lot of us are concerned about some of your answers to some questions. Were you trying to avoid the question? Were you hoping that the precise question was not asked, was not asked where you could not squeeze out of it in some way, or duck it in some way, or evade it in some way? Mr. ALTMAN. No, Senator, I wasn't. Senator SHELBY. Was that part of your preparation for the hearin g? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I prepared for those hearings the way I've always tried to prepare which was to put myself in a position to know as much as I can about the subject and answer the questions as forthrightly as I can. Senator SHELBY. Do you know Mr. Josh Steiner? Mr. ALTMAN. Sure. Senator SHELBY. Do you work with him? Mr. ALTMAN. Yes, sir. Senator SHELBY. Do you work closely with him? Mr. ALTMAN. Less so these days because he's Chief of Staff, but he was my special assistant through last fall, and we worked very closely. Senator SHELBY. Worked with him every day, did you not, for a while? Mr. ALTMAN. At that period, yes, not now. Senator SHELBY. You're familiar with his diaries and I'm sure you've read them, have you not? Mr. ALTMAN. I've never been given a full copy of the diary, no. I've just have the page The CHAIRMAN. That's all we have, too. Senator SHELBY. Talking about recusal, which you don't think is important, but a lot of us do think that it is important and the method Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I didn't say it was important. Senator SHELBY. What did you say about it? Mr. ALTMAN. I said it bad nothing to do with the RTC investigation of Madison Guaranty. Senator SHELBY. You said it didn't matter? Mr. ALTMAN. I said it had nothing to do with the RTC investigation of Madison Guaranty. Senator SHELBY. Not whether it didn't matter, it was immaterial to the investigation? Mr. ALTMAN. It would have had no bearing under any circumstances on the RTC investigation of Madison. Senator SHELBY. I want to read you something from the record and it may have already been touched on, but from Josh Steiner's diary and this has to To with your -meeting at the White House. 449 "At a fateful White House meeting with Nussbaum, Ickes, and Williams, however, the White House staff told Roger Altman that it was unacceptable"-that is your recusal. "Roger Altman had gone to brief them on the impending statute of limitations deadline and also to tell them of his recusal decision. They reacted"-they reacted "very negatively to the recusal and Roger Altman backed down the next ay and agreed to a de
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(19:05:41) Why, assuming he had no reason to lie on his impression and he put this, why did you, Deputy Secretary of Treasury confirmed by the Senate, acting CEO of the Resolution Trust Corporation, if this is correct, why would you let Nussbaum, Ickes, and Williams beat up on you or back you down in any way and cause you not to recuse yourself when it seemed to be imminent? Why, Mr. Altman? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I did not do so. Senator SHELBY. In other words, this gentleman is wrong and he's lying? Is that what you're saying? Mr. ALTMAN. Mr. Steiner, as you know. did not attend the meeting did attend the meeting. Senator SHELBY. You told him about the meeting, didn't you? Mr. ALTMAN. I did attend the meeting. Senator SHELBY. Did you tell him about your impressions of the meeting? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, there's testimony under oath from the other participants-let me be very clear. No one asked me not to recuse myself. No one told me the recusal was unacceptable. No one said to me, please don't do that. So the notion that recusal was unacceptable is false. That was not said to me. Senator SHELBY. In other words, what he's saying is not true? Mr. ALTMAN. The reference to unacceptable is not true. Senator SHELBY. Why didn't you recuse yourself? Because they would have been unhappy at the White House-that is Nussbaum, Ickes, Williams- if you bad? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, let me describe the recusal decision. I went to the meeting having been advised orally and later advised in writing, that there was no legal or ethical requirement to recuse, that it was a purely personal decision. It wasn't an easy decision to make because I was also aware of the argument that I had a duty to serve. Indeed, the Office of Government Ethics Report released on Sunday, questions my decision of recusal and suggests it may have been the wrong decision because in the absence of a legal or ethical requirement to recuse, there is a requirement that you should serve so it wasn't an easy decision, and I admit being Senator SHELBY. It wasn't an easy decision, but it would have been the right decision, wouldn't it? Mr. ALTMAN. I think, I said in my decision, I should have recused myself right off the bat. this Senator SHELBY. It would have been the right decision. I want to ask you about something else. You know, we have a limited amount of time here. Referring to Josh Steiner's diary and at again, I'm quoting it: "Once again, they were concerned out him"-- about you---"turning the RTC people, they didn't know. So Roger Altman did not formally commit himself to stepping down." 450 Turning the RTC, turning someone is changing them some way. in other words, you turn a prisoner. You turn somebody. That iswhat's your interpretation of that phrase? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, if you look up a little bit, you see-and. you' quoted this a moment. ago-" "agreed to a de facto recusal where the RTC would handle this case like any other and RA," meaning me, would have no involvement.' at was the understanding that the participants in that meeting had. Why did they have that understanding? Because I explicitly told them at the meeting. I did the right thing. I said recusal is irrelevant because I wont be playing any role in. the decisions on this case. I told them not once but twice, and before that meeting, I told that to Ms. Kulka and she testified that I would have no involvement in the case, and that's my point about recusal. It had nothing to do with the RTC investigation. Whether I executed a formal recusal or remained de facto recused, I wasn't going to play any role in that case whatsoever. Senator SHELBY. Why did you duck the question Senator Gramm asked you before this same Banking Committee back in February? Mr. ALTMAN. I did not duck it. Senator SHELBY. You didn't. Mr. Josh Steiner's diary says, and you're familiar with it "they had also asked if staff had met but Roger Altman gracefully ducked the question and did not refer to phone calls he had. The next day The New York Times ran a frontpage story on the meeting. The heat was on. We spent," we spent "a tortured day trying to decide if he, " meaning you "should recuse himself." Was Mr. Steiner working with you at this time? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, what happened on February Senator SHELBY. Was he working with you at the time? Mr. ALTMAN. No, he was not in direct line responsibility to me. senator SHELBY. You were not around him during this time? Mr. ALTMAN. No. Let me be clear. Mr. Steiner served as my special assistant through the fall of 1993, 1 believe September, but I'm not certain. At that time he was promoted and be became-I might say he's privileged to be Secretary Bentsen's Chief of Staff. So at the time of these discussions, he was Chief of Staff of the Department, not my special assistant.
New Coinage Rushed: Silver Shrinks in Pocket Change
The San Francisco Mint, closed for 10 years, has be reactivated as the nation faces a mounting coin shortage. New coinage will have a muted tinkle since the silver shortage necessarily shrinks the amount in coins. Nice TLS people hopping onto rolling Powell & Market trolley in San Francisco. TLS U.S. mint in San Francisco. Panning MS reporters, press photographers & newsreel cameramen taking picture, flashbulbs snapping. MSs - Mint Director EVA ADAMS standing by minting machine with Mayor of San Francisco JOHN SHELLEY and unidentified man (either Director of Redevelopment Agency Justin Herman or former Mayor George Christopher). CU machine slot in motion. High angle MS coins falling into basket. MS press corps, white man rewinding film in still camera. MS Eva Adams posing for press with unidentified white man (Herman or Christopher). Tilting MS coinage traveling along slow-moving spindle. CU hand stirring coins in tray, coins falling from chute. MS African-American man standing at chute.
Pint-Size Pros: Conn. Team Wins Little League Title
There are 20,000 Little League fans on hand at Williamsport, Pa., for the World Championship for small fry. A team from Windsor Locks, Connecticut, outscores a team from across the border, Canada, to take the biggest crown in younger set competition. TLS crowd in stands at Howard J. Lamade Stadium. TLS Stony Creek team of Canada posing in dugout, boys in baseball uniforms. TLS Windsor Lock, Connecticut, team posing in dugout. Excellent panning TLS man using jet pack (jetpack, rocket pack, jet harness, rocket belt) to propel himself from ball field, then flying high over park, then landing safely-- note that this is the same year that "Thunderball" was released, which featured several scenes with a Bell jetpack; this is also a predecessor to the famous Rocket man stunt promotion of today. High angle LS spectators in stands. MS Canadian boy pitching. H/a LS Stony Creek pitch, batter hitting home run, running bases, being congratulated by teammates. H/a Windsor Locks player hitting single, runner crossing home plate. TLS audience in stands, but one African-American couple in the whole lot. MS Windsor Locks pitcher winding up on mound; h/a LS pitch, striking out batter; players celebrate on field, throwing gloves into the air. TLS manual scoreboard. H/a TLS Windsor Locks players celebrating on field in mass huddle.
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(19:10:50) Sure we interact a lot. I have a high regard for Mr. Steiner. In fact, what I want to say here is he's one of the best people I ever met. But what happened on February 25, was that I decided in the morning to recuse myself. We spent a bunch of time-I remember calling Mr. DeVore on the phone two or three times, although, he was then retired in Texas, not retired but moved to Texas-trying to figure out the best way to release the decision, should we put it out on the wires, should we issue a press release, should we tell a single reporter. That's what we did on February 25. 1 did the right thing. When I was asked-when I decided to recuse myself, I didn't consult with anybody. I didn't seek any body's permission. I did it. Senator SHELBY. But when you finally decided to recuse yourself it was after these meetings and suggestions by staff and everybody else, wasn't it? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator Shelby, I think the salient point is that I wasn't going to play any role on the decisions in the case. Mr. 451 Steiner's own diary says, "agreed to a de facto recusal where the RTC would handle this case like any other" and I "would have no involvement." Senator SHELBY. If you weren't going to play any role, why didn't you recuse yourself and step aside? Mr. ALTMAN. I probably should have done so 3 weeks earlier. Senator SHELBY. My time is up. The CHAIRMAN. I think somewhere along the time-I don't mean to trespass on Senator Mack's time-but we're going to have to get an explanation as to all of the agony about this decision, I mean why it was was on, off and takes up this length of time. It's that whole time period, but we're going to have to understand that a lot better than we understand it now. Senator Mack. Senator MACK. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Altman, I want to go back to that very short memo from Ms. Hanson, on September 30, regarding the Madison matter. It's very short and makes reference to her meeting at the White House at least I believe it does and it goes on to ask, and I quote, "Is there anything more that you think we should be doing?" You don't think you told her to do this and never saw the memo? Mr. ALTMAN. Senator Mack, what I tried to say before is that to me, this memo says, I've advised some people of an impending press story attached right here, Senator MACK. I beard your testimony. Again, all I'm asking you is that you don't believe that you got the memo; right? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't recall getting the memo, but I may have. Senator MACK. The second point is that you don't believe that the "we" is an indication to you that she's been working with you on these matters? Mr. ALTMAN. It says, "is there anything else you think we should be doing, " which I believe modifies the impending press story. Is there anything else we should be doing about this impending press story? That's what this says . Senator MACK. I'll get back to that in a minute. I do find that interesting. If we believe you and not her, we have to believe that she wrote you this memo for no reason at all, on a case which you knew nothing about, on a case you wanted to stay away from and reported back to you just for the heck of it. In other words, she was setting you up. Mr. ALTMAN. I don't believe that's what happened, Senator. Senator Mack. I want to ask you about another meeting. Mr. Roelle's testified that he was in your office and overheard you tell Ms. Hanson on October 6, 1993, to tell "Jack, Bernie, and the Sec- retary about the possibility of leaks," but, I guess you think he was mistaken. You don't have any knowledge of that either. Mr. ALTMAN. I don't recollect asking Ms. Hanson to go to the White House to discuss the criminal referrals, no, Sir. Senator MACK. This is not that meeting. This is October 6. That Supposedly took place on the 27th. Mr. ALTMAN. I believe that the participants in the October meeting have all testified under oath that I bad nothing to do with that meeting. I believe that was their testimony 452 Senator MACK. I'm getting to what Mr. Roelle said, Mr. Roelle's testimony. The question was "do you recall who he " Mr. Altman "told her Ms. Hanson to call?" The response was "yeah, he said call Jack, Bernie and the Secretary." Now, here's the situation for me Mr. ALTMAN. Is that the October meeting? Senator MACK. This is the October 6 meeting in your office, telephone call to Ms. Hanson, right. The response again to the question is "yeah, be said call Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary." Mr. ALTMAN. I'm not sure what your question is, Senator. Senator MACK. My question here is, you have been testifying Cut don't know anything about this. We're supposed to believe you, we now have Ms. Hanson who believes that you got a call from Roelle and you told Roelle to call Ms. Hanson to give her the details on this conversation.
Mt. Kennedy: Brother Climbs Memorial Park
In the rugged Yukon Territory, few miles north of the British Columbia border, the Canadian Government has named an unsheltered mountain as a memorial to President John F. Kennedy. The first man to climb the peak is Senator Robert Kennedy, who carries the family flag to top and plants it where no man has ever trod before. Senator Kennedy had never climbed a mountain before. He says he will never climb another. Yukon, Canada Aerial of the snow covered mountains, sunny day. LS Helicopter hovering over Mountt Kennedy. CU Inside the helicopter cock pit. CU Helicopter landing a the foot of Mr. Kennedy. MS Robert Kennedy all bundled up. LS Base camp #1. CU Robert Kennedy packing up his back pack with supplies. CU Robert Kennedy getting rope instruction from one of the mountain climbing guides. Robert Kennedy wearing snow shoes and carrying his back pack slowly making it up the mountain. Robert Kennedy sitting on the snow, wearing gloves, sun goggles a down feathered vest and no shirt, his bare arms are exposed eating nuts or dehydrated meat. Robert Kennedy making it up Mt. Kennedy carrying a flag with his families crest on it, he is still wearing just a sleeveless vest with no shirt or any other winter protection. LS Robert Kennedy and his group almost to the top of Mt. Kennedy.
United States Wins Gymnastic Meet
The U.S. rarely takes part in gymnastics on an international scale, but an American team takes on one from Britain and comes out winner. Uncle Sam's gymnasts did not so well in the Olympics but it looks like they are training seriously and mean to make a better showing next time around in Mexico City. London A male gymnast, Bob Williams on rings. CU Marie Walter of the US on uneven parallel bars. MS Audience applauding. Marie's performance. Mary Prestage on the uneven parallel bars with her pony tail waving in the wind. Marie Walter on the balance beam. Jim Pancock on the Pommel Horse. Beverly Avery jumping up and down on the Trampoline. One of the women goes over the vault and takes a fall. One of the men athlete s on the Trampoline and he is jumping and spinning and putting on a good performance.,
Bomb Rips United States Embassy
See also catalog # 529489 Vietcong terrorism hits at the U.S. Embassy in Saigon as a bomb explodes in front of the building after it was planted in a parked car. Two Americans and eleven South Vietnamese were killed. 183 injured, many seriously. The cameraman records the scene as rescue workers ignore danger to probe the wreckage for the wounded. Most of the Vietnamese dead were passersby or workers on the first floor of the Embassy. Reaction to the outrage was one of dismay and shock in Washington. President Johnson said the bombing would serve to reinforce the Administration s determination to give more help to South Vietnam. Saigon, Vietnam Cars are smashed up there's a pedestrian running and a ambulance pulling up. CU - Two men one holding a hankie in his hand near his ear and the other one holding a hankie on his eye. Both men are full of blood. CU - A man wearing a white shirt and tie just full of blood being led away by a man and a woman. MS - Two men helping another man whose been injured and full of blood away from the building. CU - A woman who was probably working nearby bleeding from her ear. MS - Man walking holding a hankie to his mouth his face and cloths are full of blood. CU - A European man with a bandage wrapping around his eyes being helped and led to medical treatment by two military soldiers. CU - One man full of blood on a stretcher being carried away on a stretcher smoking a cigarette. MS - Firemen putting out a car that's on fire. MS - A demolished station wagon and other cars that got caught in the reign of terror. MS - A destroyed office building. CU - A floor being hosed down and the water has plenty of blood in it. Camera panning - Office building that suffered a great deal of damage. It has a shredded American Flag on the roof that has been damaged by the bombing.
Chile Digs Out After Earthquake: Hundreds Dead In Earthquake
The worst earthquake since the Alaskan disaster shakes Central Chile for 90 seconds. In those fleeting moments 300 persons lost their lives. 20,000 were made homeless. Hardest hit was the mining town of El Cobre, north of Santiago. There, a mud dam containing millions of tons of mineral waste gave way, sweeping away the village. Chile Men standing on a hill with a lot of dust filling the air. People walking around the side of the earthquake, there is nothing standing. Two men coming to the aid of a injured older woman who has a bandage wrapped around her head. Man carrying a woman out of a car that was injured. The town of El Cobre that looks like it's buried under tons of dirt. Helicopter patrol looking for survivors. Crowd of people who survived the earthquake looking at nothing but empty land. Damaged building. Part of a street that opened up. Mother and child standing outside damaged building. Men cleaning up parts of the buildings that smashed to the ground. Little boy looking at the aftermath of the earthquake. People looking and walking on land with their homes all gone, covered by tons of dirt and mineral waste sweeping it all away like it was never there.
All-American Win: US Horse And Rider Take Grand National
A horse and rider from the colonies give British thoroughbreds their comeuppance as Jay Trump - 20 to 1, wins the Grand National Classic. American-bred, the horse is ridden by an American Tommy Smith. The Yankee - Doodle pair make this the first All-American win in the annals of the Grand National. Spectators in the stands. MS - Queen Elizabeth and her daughter Princess Margaret. MS - Horses getting exercised by jockeys and trainers. Spectators. Queen Elizabeth, (Queen Mom) looking through binoculars. All the horses take off, its the start of the race. Horses with their jockeys jump over the hedge. Horses running down the track. Horses jump over their second hedge and there's a pile up of horses and jockeys. Horses and jockeys jumping over a pond. Horses and jockeys jump over another hedge and 5 jockeys are injured. The leader of the the horses takes a fall when jumping a hedge. J Trump and American horse takes the lead, he is ridden by a American Tommy Smith. J Trump and his jockey Tommy Smith win.
Royal Funeral: Leaders In Tribute To Princess Mary
Death comes to Princess Mary, aunt of Queen Elizabeth. The Royal Family leads the mourners at private services in a church near Leeds. At Westminster Abbey in London, a memorial service is attended by 2,000 distinguished persons, among them the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, marking their first public appearance since he gave up his throne 29 years ago. Leeds Exterior shot of church near Leeds. Princess Margaret and the Duke of Kent. Queen Elizabeth II, in the background, Prince Charles and Prince Philip. Westminster Abbey, London Ladies that look like they belong to some branch of the military. Lady Churchill, turns and smiles. Former Prime Minister MacMillian. Lord and Lady Home, walking briskly past the camera. Former Prime Minister Clemet Attlee, wearing a top hat and walking with a cane. Lord Earl Louis Mountbatten. Prime Minister Harold Wilson. Leeds Duke and Duchess of Winsor. Princess Mary's coffin is laid down on the ground by the attendants. Family members queue up to pay their last respects, leading the way is Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mum. encircling her casket.
Ah, Spring! Circus Opening Makes It Official
This mixed-up spring is enough to drive an early Robin to his psychiatrist - but that faithful harbinger - the circus, rolls into New York right on schedule. Proof positive that Spring Is Here! When The Greatest Show On Earth ends its 39-day engagement in Madison Square Garden it hits the sawdust trail for children of all ages, all over the land, to see. New York, NY Three Ring Circus, with horses in the rings. Acrobat hanging on the rings doing tricks, while holding on to the ring she keeps twisting her body. Faces of the audience. The trapeze act. Man in the audience looking through binoculars. A lady hung by her hair from the ceiling is juggling. Elephants doing tricks in the center, laying down and standing on their hind legs. High Angle Shot - Audience applauding. Elephants finish their perform by standing on their hind legs.
August 2, 1994 - Part 7
(19:15:50) That call takes place--Ms. Hanson believes that you have tasked her to go to the White House. At her meeting at the White House she informs the White House of the referrals. She comes back and writes a memorandum to you that in essence says, I've done that, is there anything more we can do. There's also a meeting on October 6 with another person saying that you had I knowledge of these things. He informs you about a pre leak and you call Ms. Hanson, get her on the phone, and say, call Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary. So all I'm saying is that this really calls into question how I can believe the point you're making as opposed to these other two individuals. Mr. ALTMAN. First of all, Senator, this memo we've been discussing, at least in my view, does not confirm that Ms. Hanson went to the White House and talked about criminal referrals in September. It doesn't have anything to do with that. That's what you just said, Senator. You said it confirmed it. Second of all, Senator-if I may say, none of the participants in this second meeting, the October meeting, and you said this was an October reference. Senator MACK. October 6 in your office. Mr. ALTMAN. None of the participants in the second meeting have said they bad their meeting at the White House, I believe it was October 14, at my request. Not one person has said that. Senator MACK. All I'm trying to establish is that there's another person out there that says that you're more involved in this than you are admitting to. I mean, we have Jean Hanson, she went on at quite some length explaining the situation. Now, you have said that she, in essence, doesn't now what she's talking about; in other words, she's kind of freelancing. But there's another conversation that takes place on October 6, at which point you have gotten information from Mr. Roelle, you then pick up the phone and call Ms. Hanson, and you say to her, call Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary. Do you not recall that. Mr. ALTMAN. First of all, Senator Mack Senator MACK. Do you recall that? Mr. ALTMAN. -The questions that I was asked earlier in regard to this differing recollection with Ms. Hanson, my answer was and my answer is I don't recollect that. I think if I tasked her to do it, I would have remembered it. 453 Senator MACK. Remember, we're now talking about the October 6 meeting. This is a separate meeting. This has nothing to do with the issue of tasking. I'm just asking you the question, Mr. Altman. Do you Mr. ALTMAN. I don't recollect that. Senator MACK. You do not remember that? Mr. ALTMAN. I do not recollect that, no. Senator MACK. At this point we have two people, Ms. Hanson and Mr. Roelle, that have testified under oath that they know of your involvements in these things and you say that you haven't. At that point, I'll just let it go. Mr. ALTMAN. Senator, I believe they have testified that they made me aware of an impending press leak. Senator MACK. Mr. Altman, I asked you the question, do you recall this incident in your office where you picked up the phone and called Ms. Hanson? Mr. ALTMAN. No, Senator, I don't. Senator MACK. To speak to Jack, Bernie, and the Secretary? Mr. ALTMAN. I don't recall that. Senator SARBANES. Senator Mack, you still have some time. Senator DAMATO. Yield to Senator Gramm? Senator MACK, Certainly, If be wishes to, I'd be glad to. Senator GRAMM. I appreciate Senator Mack yielding. Let me go back, Mr. Nussbaum, to this Steiney diary very briefly. He writes in his diary that you bad orginally decided to recuse yourself but under intense pressure from the White House, you bad decided to delay a final decision. And then he says that at a fateful White House meeting, which we know is the February 2 meeting with Nussbaum, Ickes, and Williams, however, the White House told Roger Altman that his recusal was unacceptable. IWe have a deposition from Maggie Williams about the February 3 meeting, the meeting which was apparent] too unimportant to disclose to this Committee, and here's what she says: "Well, Roger called me and be said to me, I have decided not to recuse and I want to tell some people-I wanted to tell some people in the White House that and then he said I'm on my way to this meeting, but I would like to get a few people together and tell them, and I thought OK And he said, could you grab a few people or call a few people, le, and I said OK" Now, who is this Maggie Williams? Mr. ALTMAN. Margaret Williams is the First Lady's Chief of Staff. Senator GRAMM. You called the Chief of Staff of the First Lady of the United States to ask her to get a few people together at the White House so you could tell them you weren't going to recuse Yourself. Why?
No Life on Mars: Mariner IV Photos Show Barren Planet
Tracking stations are the cogs that made the Mariner IV flight a success. Like this one in Spain they receive pieces and bits of information from the Satellite's tape recorder that are translated into the most remarkable space pictures ever made. Tilt down from sky to tracking station in desert. TLS/MS's - satellite dish at tracking station. Panning TLS technicians working in information hub. CU man talking into headset. CU oscilloscope. MS teletype machine, zoom into CU tickertape feeding out on left-hand side. MS technician reviewing charts at data tape machines, zoom in to CU Memorex data tape spinning slowly on machine. CU man smiling, wearing communications headset. MS teletype machine. CUs flashing computer dials, buttons, counters, electrical boards, etc. Satellite photos of Martian surface. Control room, station.
Spain, Australia Win: US Tennis Titles Again Go Abroad
US OPEN Manuel Santana Becomes the first player from Spain ever to win the tennis championship of the United States and Margaret Smith of Australia proves that she is Top woman player as she adds the American title to the Wimbledon crown she already wears. Santana sets back Cliff Drysdale of South Africa, while Miss Smith takes the measure of Billie Jean Moffitt (Billie Jean King) of the United States. US Woman's Singles. High Angle Shot - Tennis Fans MS - Margaret Smith serving. High Angle Shot - Match point and Margaret Smith takes the title. High Angle Shot - Cliff Drysdale of South Africa serves to Manuel Santana of Spain. MS - Santana serves. High Angle Shot - Drysdale of South Africa serves. High Angle Shot - Fans applauding. High Angle Shot - Match point, Santana serves and he wins. CUS - Manuel Santana holding his wining loving cup trophy.
Kashmiri War Ends: India-Pakistan Bow To UN Cease-Fire
The lights burn late at the United Nations - beacons that illuminate the road to peace. The Security Council receives word from Pakistan that they will join India in accepting the UNs order for a cease-fire in the Kashmiri War. The acceptance comes just minutes before the 3 AM, deadline set by the UN. Earlier the General Assembly voted for a new President and Italy's Amintore Fanfani is the almost-unanimous choice. He will greet Pope Paul who is shown in Rome presiding at the Fourth Session of Vatican Council Two. New York, New York Silhouette of New York City in the evening, lights are on in the windows in the United Nations building. High Angle shot - Inside the United Nations dignitaries have their heads together. MS Ambassador Arthur Goldberg in a huddle with other envoys. MS India's ambassador. CUS Pakistan's ambassador. High Angle Wide shot od UN. MS US Ambassador Arthur Goldberg. Wide shot - UNs general assembly in session. Vatican City, Rome, Italy MS - Wide Angle shot - Christian Pilgrims in St. Peter's square in Vatican City, Rome. MS - Pope Paul VI sitting in St. Peter's Chair reading a Declaration of Liberty.